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Oct 12, 2005 12:12:28 GMT -5
Post by janice on Oct 12, 2005 12:12:28 GMT -5
It's been awhile since I've run at Pine Mtn, but I'll give you my 2-cents. Both are pretty much all single track. I wouldn't say that either is tremendously hilly, but both have some climbs. I remember lots of sections of Pine Mtn being really nice, smooth trail, but as you get towards the turn around there are lots of roots and you cross the same darn creek about a million times. Both courses were slower than I would've thought they'd be - by that I mean they weren't torturously hard, but just slow times somehow. Pine Mtn more than SJ. Rich would be the best person to give a review of the 2 courses. He's done both a bunch of times, and recently
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Post by janice on Dec 31, 2007 11:25:51 GMT -5
i know that Jamie tried them out several times and each time got sick. He was none too happy....
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Post by janice on Dec 5, 2007 16:02:29 GMT -5
Any one interested in a FA training run this Sunday? I am open to give "tours" of the course.
Meet at the FA start and we will run 2-3 loops. Each loop is a little over 7 miles long.
We will start at 8am.
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Post by janice on Nov 20, 2007 22:13:28 GMT -5
loved your training report \
that's what it takes; trying it out and seeing what happens
it really won't seem so lonely at an event, where you willl have other runners and aid stations, etc
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Post by janice on Nov 13, 2007 22:38:02 GMT -5
we didn't name him bag-o-sand for nuthin!!
i guess if it starts in my driveway i should do it? maybe the 2nd loop? no wait, that would still be like at 4am.... ok, do 3 loops and i am in for the 3rd loop!
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Post by janice on Sept 12, 2007 15:41:15 GMT -5
those formulas don't always work.
My max way back when i was a fast 10K runner was only 180 (that max was tested by professionals, not me or a formula). But don't be fooled, your max rate doesn't necessarily translate into ability - ie 180 is not very high, but at the same time my VO2 max was well above 60 (good for a girl). My max now is just over 160, which seems about right based on the numbers from 10+ years ago (I am fatter, older, out of shape now).
Anyway....the best method to determine your max, short of having a professional do it for you, is to do a max effort run with your heart rate monitor on. Typical max runs are things like an all out 800 meters or all out uphill run for 3+ minutes (with the bear thing thrown in as cheese said).
Warm up and then do the max run. Then check the heart rate monitor for your max heart rate. Then adjust your max on the monitor.
One other possibility is that the monitor is losing contact with your chest (mine does this). When it loses contact it will give you wild mis-readings.
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Post by janice on Jul 11, 2007 19:42:00 GMT -5
i am not ignoring that! we are VERY helpful (and cheerful) at the aid stations, not like mother-out-laws! although an outlaw may be more of an incentive to run....run...run!!!!
anyway, it is tough running at the beach. i would vote to get up way early and do 1 run of however far you can manage. it will be hot as "trot" by 7am, so you will get plenty of heat acclimiatization. not to worry about the double, you should be fine with just 1 run
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Post by janice on Feb 20, 2007 21:02:36 GMT -5
i wasn't suggesting stopping the meds, just a realistic view of how you might feel taking them. i spent a year on cipro and it pretty much sucked, but i kept taking them. i never had a problem with tendons or anything, it just made me very tired, more easily sunburned, and it effected other meds (ie made em not work)
i suppose i got used to it after awhile
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Post by janice on Feb 19, 2007 14:53:12 GMT -5
Glad you were able to GUT it out Fred, but sorry that you had been sick.
Someone from the medical field (Rich?) might be able to answer you better, but i know that taking anitbiotics makes you feel really lousy when trying to run (even though they are making you better for what ails ya)
my guess is that your training helped get you thru the race, but you likely weren't at your best after being sick and on anitbiotics
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Post by janice on Sept 21, 2006 7:56:18 GMT -5
I've measured the change from Burnt Hickory to the top via the trail using my watch altimeter, and i think it was around 900 feet. I will check next time i run up the mtn.
i agree that N.GA will provide you the best training for the hills you will experience at White River. I ran it awhile ago and it had quite a few long climbs, but i don't remember thinking there were too bad, just long (required walking). It's a great event, i highly recommend it. If the weather is clear, it is also has amazing views of Ranier. janice
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Post by janice on Jan 29, 2007 9:52:39 GMT -5
hi Anne,
the tuesday runs are at kennesaw mtn, near Marietta. From midtown, you would go north on 75 and get off at exit 267B. The exit numbers are by the mile so you can tell from that how many miles it is from your location, but i am guessing 25ish.
email me at getguts@hotmail.com and i can send more specific information. Next week is the 1st Tuesday so we will be going for beer and pizza after teh run. We meet at 6pm to run. 7:15 for beer&pizza.
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Post by janice on Jan 25, 2006 15:03:36 GMT -5
I am very quiet ;D No, really
Anyway, was there a question that I missed? Or is the question simply "why don't more people speak up?"
I promise from now on I will be more bossy and opinionated. Griz
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Post by janice on Dec 13, 2006 21:30:01 GMT -5
sorry mr cheese, i wasn't intending to be unfair to cheese. afterall, i love cheese!
just pointing out that with really nice, cozy, food-filled aid stations, a runner can waste a lot of time without noticing it.
so, beware the chair, we will try to be mean to all runners so that they don't stay at the aid station too long. i promise. ;D (ok, see that was a joke....)
thx j-g
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Post by janice on Dec 12, 2006 21:21:00 GMT -5
good job at the 10 miler!
you can run as far as your feet want to go on the 17th. i may heckle you as i eat my lunch and you head out for another loop, but that is part of the training! i know you think i am kidding, but "beware the chair" is a serious subject. Just ask Mr cheese! he spent more time at the FA aid station last year than the fastest runner spent running it!!! no, really, it is true. but, he finished. yes, he did. just not very fast....
anyway, it will be a good training run. griz
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Post by janice on Dec 6, 2006 21:42:27 GMT -5
yes, i am sure we will get it by then anyway....
SUPER fast! haha. no really we will have several different groups ranging from pretty fast (sub-3:30 marathoners), to not-as-fast (sub-four-hour), to fast enough.
hope to see you then janice
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Post by janice on Dec 5, 2006 22:19:20 GMT -5
if you are scared of trails..... if you are a-scared of the FA then join us on dec 17 for a training run on the course Sunday, December 17th GUTS Members Training Run TIME Start time is 8 am from the Pres'z house. If you want to start at the visitor’s center then you should start around 7:30 in order to run over to the house by 8am, but the loop DOES NOT go by the VC.DIRECTIONS From I75 , take the SR-5, exit #267B. Stay to the left, following the signs for Marietta. Take a right at the second traffic light, onto Tower Rd. Go approximately 1.5 miles the street will change names to North Saint Mary's and become residential. The house is at 668, set back from the street, 2-story, very yellow farm house style. HOW LONG Each loop is approximately 7.75 miles. Runners are free to run as many loops as they desire. PICTURE: Wear your GUTS gear for the group photo! AID: None provided. This is just a training run among friends. If you need it, bring it !
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Post by janice on Sept 26, 2005 9:48:40 GMT -5
I suppose Cochran Shoals is another option. MOst people just run the flat, gravel path by the river, but there is a large network of trails that go up into the woods from there.
There is also Red Top Mtn. I haven't been there in awhile, but they have about a 6 mile loop.
My fav is Kennesaw Mtn - of course! Janice
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Post by janice on May 19, 2005 13:09:46 GMT -5
sounds awesome, let us know when you go back again, we've been intending to go up there for some time janice
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Post by janice on Mar 13, 2006 21:12:48 GMT -5
very cool Phil!
Glad you got to go up there and run. The AT will make you tough that is for sure. It can be a lot harder when it's warm.
hope to be up there too sometime soon, janice
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Post by janice on Mar 5, 2006 13:24:25 GMT -5
I would wear the Leones up there.
If you start at Hogpen and head towards Unicoi, the first 10+ miles are relatively smooth trail - in part an old wagon road. There are a couple of climbs, worse than average at Kennesaw, but not as bad or as long as running up Kennesaw Mtn.
The last 4 miles to Unicoi has some "rock beds". These sections have lots of rocks, but once you get past them, it is back to normal. There are a couple of climbs in this section as well. And a BIG decent down to Unicoi Gap.
One REALLY nice side trail is Jacks Knob Trail that diverts over at Chattahoochee gap (10 miles from Hogpen and where the famous river "starts"). It is about 3 miles on trail to the base of Brasstown Bald. Then it is about 4 miles up to the top on trail. A very nice run.
Have fun if you go. As soon as I am uninjured I plan to go up there again. Janice
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