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Post by gitagoing on Oct 3, 2007 5:49:33 GMT -5
Did the HL 24 hour. Moon Pies were great after the run. The heat kept us from eating too many during the day. The night chilled us out so coffee worked for a while.
Doyle Carpenter was there and he ate a box and beat me till he went to sleep.
Moon Pies would make a good sponsor. I have a few left for PB or fishing. They add Southern color.
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Post by colonel on Oct 3, 2007 7:33:08 GMT -5
slight correction to #10 No restriction on 50 mile times to be a GUTS RD! HAW HAW!! Roger that! I was just reminding Tony that the race he was running (a 50 mile event), would qualify him to be a RD!
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Post by gitagoing on Jan 31, 2008 18:44:58 GMT -5
if y'all really want to host a 24 hour run, i volunteer to be RD/ just tell me what you wish ;D
a 24 hour in Atlanta is a good tradition/ too long neglected.
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Post by surftrip on Feb 19, 2008 12:22:37 GMT -5
Woo Hoo! My vote is Jaydene - she slayed the Red Top Race. That's the problem with doing something exceptionally well - everybody looks to you next time. Crossing my fingers the GUTS gang can pull it off. I'll donate some time and/or $ to make it happen - but nobody wants me involved in any sort of organizing of any kind... I couldn't organize my way out of a paper bag.
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Post by robturner on Feb 19, 2008 12:42:05 GMT -5
Please count me in too as a potential runner (especially if relay teams are permitted) and volunteer organizer. I can likely assist with adding some more good "junk" food (popcorn variety) to the aid stations as well via a donation from my folks' business in S.C. www.cromers.com/Rob
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Post by gitagoing on Mar 10, 2008 12:28:32 GMT -5
;D Ok PREZ what is it to be. As we say in poker its the river card bet or fold if you still in. ;D I can be RD or co-RD with JayDene or just support the 24 hour. Support from top runners is there. Ask and you shall receive. Its your time PREZ so shall we do it??? The Atlanta 24 hour has history. Visualize a 24 hour trail Championship for GUTS in 2009. Or this year if you wish to bid. And when the Olympics come back to Atlanta be prepared to host a 100K Olympic Championship. Julia and I almost pulled it off at the last one. We still have the plans.
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Post by gitagoing on Mar 18, 2008 13:31:25 GMT -5
;D don't keep us awaiting too long on the 24 hour if GUTS intends to host one this year. ;D JayDene or I will be CO-RD, but we need the GUTS blessing on a course and if its OK to do CHIP timing. Runners with experience need to know. Thanks Larry
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Post by JeffG on Mar 18, 2008 19:02:46 GMT -5
Dawson Forest could be good site. They have a several trails and loop configurations - I often run a course that is mostly a loop and a little over 7 miles - with some gravel road, closed to vehicles, but mostly single track. Also - they often have horse people there camping out for a full weekend, so I don't think that it would too tough to get a weekend reserved. Plenty of room for camping. Might be something to look into.
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Post by janice on Mar 18, 2008 19:25:37 GMT -5
actually, i have been talking just this week with Scott Ludwig about a 24-hour event
maybe in mid-sept. i will look into dawson forest but it needs to be a relatively short loop - up to 1.5 miles
we'll keep you posted
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Post by surftrip on Mar 19, 2008 17:16:42 GMT -5
I don't know if it helps to keep tossin' out ideas, but I believe the Simpson Trails that I've mentioned would be perfect for this. Previous post about Simpsonwood: getguts.proboards32.com/index.cgi?board=rundescriptions&action=display&thread=1197400528They have a big campsite right along the trail, and last weekend I saw a boy scout group using it. It would be plenty big enough and I can't imagine that the cost to rent would be excessive. Once people saw the trails, they'd be pleasantly surprised. Plus, you have a river section, on-site restrooms at one part of the trail, easy access, tons of parking, etc etc etc The trails criss-cross so often that shortening to 1 or 1.5 mile loop would be doable. ...anyway, it's just an idea. I wouldn't harp on it so much if I didn't think y'all, as well as others, would really find this trail enjoyable. Let me know if'n you'd like me to do some sniffin' on cost etc... I am really stoked for a GUTS 24 hour
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Post by janice on Mar 19, 2008 22:02:54 GMT -5
maybe i should come and run them to check it out
is the trail pretty smooth? ie no roots or rocks? how about hills? would people need to wear headlamps at night?
any extra details on the trail would be great
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Post by thampton on Mar 20, 2008 14:00:22 GMT -5
Janice, Are you familiar with Dellinger Park in Cartersville, Georgia? They have a beautifully groomed, fairly wide, only one hill up and then down, two mile course. No roots, rocks, etc. It is super easy to follow and a beautiful circuit. The Bartow County Parks and Recreation own the facility. I think it would be worth looking at if you are looking for a 24 hour race facility. The trail actually has 1/4 mile markings. I was running it one Saturday morning and saw the complete male/female Kennesaw Cross Country teams out running intervals. It would be a super location if we could secure the grounds. Terry
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Post by surftrip on Mar 28, 2008 14:51:17 GMT -5
is the trail pretty smooth? ie no roots or rocks? how about hills? would people need to wear headlamps at night? any extra details on the trail would be great Janice: 1) The trails vary. There are areas, such as along the river, that would qualify as smooth and generally hazard-free; however, there are areas in the woods that can get pretty root-y. 2) Yea, I think headlamps at night would be necessary. ...except along the river. 3) it's not hilly, but the trail is either going up or down most of the time ...very little flat --- except of course, along the river. The grades are minimal. There is one section, the yellow blaze, about 3/4 - 1 mile long that as a short, steep hill, is very smooth, soft and mostly hazard free ...and might not require headlamps actually, that yellow loop could be perfect. let me know if you'd like to come run it. it would be an honor for me of course --- and that's not even butt kissin' ...well, maybe a little, but it's always cool to run with you guys in any format.
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Post by adammcbride on Mar 31, 2008 21:52:10 GMT -5
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Post by gitagoing on Apr 1, 2008 16:49:54 GMT -5
Thoughts on the GUTS 24 hour run 1) Trail, Track or road course? I have participated in all three types. Each has its benefits and management challenges and the runners you will attract. Unless a trained crew is available 24 hours for lap counting, chip counting is most ideal . When people input or record laps for 24 hours, errors will occur. I have lost laps at the Hinson Lake 24h, a 2.4 mile course and at the Delano Park 12 hour a 1 mile course. It's discouraging, but it's OK I'm not setting any mileage goals. I suggest a 1.5 to 3.0 mile circular course or a 1 mile to 2 mile out and back course. This would reduce the stress on lap counting. Losing 3 laps at Hinson Lake wasn't fun. So, lap counting is the most critical issue. A certified precise course will help with records and error resolution. I'm not sure 2) Lighting on the course. If a trail course is selected lighting may or may not be necessary. Its a trail run for 24 hours. Runners will manage. If a track or road course is selected , then high mileage is expected by the runners and the top dogs will show, so lighting of the course will be expected, and the course should be as ideal as possible, like the Atlanta Water Works. 3) Does GUTS wish to host a National Championship race, in the future for the 24 hour? I think we should, but just a thought. Does a trail 24 hour National Championship exist?? Maybe GUTS could start one. Anyway just thoughts, this will help determine the selection of the course. 4) Community involvement and funding will determine the success of the event. The ING Marathon is a typical case example. Everyone got to participate in some way, even if they weren't running, like the beer and ribs. The community had fun, even the police. I have never been to a 24 hour that I've seen that . The closest was the National 24 hour at Toledo. Holding a community's interest for 24 hours would be a challenge, but if they participate and receive part of the funds for a cause and have fun? ? 5) Ultra runners don't have a show at the olympics, yet they are most likely the best at running. Atlanta will have a chance again in the upcoming years , probably after gitagoing is gone to that running heaven. But wouldn't it be nice to have a 50K, 100K or a 24 hour for Ultrarunners to participate in at the Olympics, in 2012 in Atlanta or Greece-Yannis home? ? Yannis don't even have a medal, so sad. OK my thoughts, thank you.
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Post by janice on Apr 2, 2008 16:09:48 GMT -5
GOOD questions. And the difficulty in answering them is part of the reason it is hard to get started on a 24-hour race. Opinions are very different and the answers can make for very different races. 1. My opinion? Road is too hard (on your legs), the better 24-hours are either on a track or a soft surface or a combination. To be "certified" and be able to have records there would need to be some defined course (ie not trail). 1.B Yes, counting can be tricky. Unfortunately chips are too expensive for a small race. We were just talking about chips at an ATC meeting and breakeven is 1000+ 2. Again, my opinion is that there must be good lighting on the course. It's not going to be a quality event without it. ATL Water Works no longer allows any races on it's property. 3. i would be interested in doing that but not until the race was held for a few years. And it would need prize money to earn the distinction. There is no trail 24-hour championship division and i don't think MUT is going to add one, but you never know. 4. i've seen a few really good 24-hour relays that were fund raisers and had lots of community involvement (eg Cancer Society Relay for Life) 5. one can always hope. 2012 is London maybe they'll incorporate the london to brighton!
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Post by robturner on Apr 9, 2008 8:24:17 GMT -5
Regarding another course possibility, Marist has a well-groomed cc trail (about a 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 mile loop) around its campus that has a fair amount of lighting from the school's facilities. The course is also fairly flat with the exception of a few climbs behind its football stadium. I note Janice's comments about certification being difficult/to possibly ruling out a trail, but want to throw this out as an FYI (there is direct accress from the soft-surface track onto the cc trail too).
Separately, I hope to have my own two cents to follow up on the trails in Surftrip's neck of the woods soon - hopefully with a run this Saturday.
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Post by surftrip on Apr 9, 2008 8:56:44 GMT -5
Separately, I hope to have my own two cents to follow up on the trails in Surftrip's neck of the woods soon - hopefully with a run this Saturday. let me know doood... ...would love to join ya.
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Post by robturner on Apr 9, 2008 10:00:40 GMT -5
ST - what time does the center's trail system open? I ask b/c the earlier I can run, the better (that leaves the rest of the day for family time).
On Edit: I just confirmed with my wife that she already has something on the books for her at 9am Saturday, meaning I need to be home by 8:30am. Is 7am too early to start over there (knowing I'll need the head lamp for close to 30 min to see - and keep from hitting - those deer you talk about)? Let me know. Cheers!
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